Klingon d4

[Ashrak]

No it's not dead and neither am I...I dont think??? ah well here is what I got of her so far.....Masao, any crits so far??http://www.geocities.com/ashrackk/d4.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/ashrackk/d4.jpg heres the link

[Masao]

No, I don't see any problems. The general outlines look good. It's coming along nicely.

I am glad that rumors of your death were exaggerated. Welcome back!

[Thomas P]

I knew you'd come back :D And you brought a tough guy - cool.

[skyhawk223]

Something happen to the image? I can't see it, even when I cut and paste the link.

[Ashrak]

some minor surface detail.........skyhawk?? the image still works for me...maybe you can see the updates...

pic 1 (http://www.geocities.com/ashrackk/klingond4_1.jpg) pic 2 (http://www.geocities.com/ashrackk/klingond4_2.jpg)

[skyhawk223]

Yes, there she is! Lovely progression from the D2/3.

[Thomas P]

Hey - page not available :(

[Ashrak]

it's geocities...so copy and paste...unless somebody out there can suggest a good image host?

[Masao]

Now that I can see the back view, I can see that the back lip of that flat/oval impulse deck should be extended backwards a bit more, but it actually looks pretty good the way you have it. I had intended for the impulse engines to be beneath the overhang formed by the backward extension of the rounded deck. Anyway, you've captured the general feel of it.

The rectangles on the wings shouldn't be raised but should be recessed and filled with ridges, like on the D7. I guess I should have drawn the ridges, eh? Here's some pictures of the D7 model: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/mechanics/d7-details.jpg

You have a point at the very rear of the secondary hull. I had a slight curve, but your version is appropriate for angular Klingon design, so it's okay. That's where the shuttle bay is, so as long as you have doors sliding to the sides, it should be fine.

So, it's looking good. The general outlines are close enough, and the details, with your modifications, fit well.

[Ashrak]

yeah i was having a difficult time figuring out what the plans were calling out...but im glad that what i got from it is ok.....

[Ashrak]

update....remember all it is geocities..so copy and paste the url...

www.geocities.com/ashrackk/topd4.jpg
www.geocities.com/ashrackk/leftd4.jpg
www.geocities.com/ashrackk/frontd4.jpg
www.geocities.com/ashrackk/perp1d4.jpg
www.geocities.com/ashrackk/perp2d4.jpg

[Warrior]

Mmmm! I like the shape it's taking :)

[skyhawk223]

Yes, coming along nicely. I like the flared out pieces at the ends of the nacelles especially.
What other modeling work do you have to do?

[Masao]

Looks good! The only thing I would suggest is to give a bit of taper to the neck from the top view.

[Ashrak]

thanks guys....the modeling is pretty much done...except for some details like windows...and whatever masao can come up with :) :D

[Ashrak]

here are some more updates....Masao, are these ships supposed to be kind of non-detailed or do you have specific ideas what the details should be....like greebles and nibblets and what not?

www.geocities.com/ashrackk/updatedD4a.jpg
www.geocities.com/ashrackk/updatedD4b.jpg

[Thomas P]

Looks great. Not speaking for Masao (as he does a great job all by himself) I think a few little 'greedies' here and there would be cool. A few small raised panels on the engines or the top-hat deck. But it does look nice all streamlined.

[Masao]

I designed it to be consistent with the original D7, meaning very few surface details and photography with 1960s special effects techniques only. I'm afraid the level of detail I've given here wouldn't stand up to modern standards. As long as you have the basic hull shapes in place, feel free to add panel details and such, but don't go overboard and turn it into a K'Tinga.