Little Starship

[PepeWan]

I started working on (yet) another starship model. This is the nurb cage, right before I froze it.

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-top1.jpg


http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bot1.jpg


More to come...

[Nova Class]

Very cool! I like it! :)

[Starship]

Hi Joe ! Long time no see you ... how you doing ? I'm still remember your Charleston class.:)
This model is very cool. Show us more !

[mercutiojb]

All I want to know is... whatever happened to the Charleston? :D

[PepeWan]

The Charlie's still around.....

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/task-forceCharlie.jpg



(the Charleston is actually a Wanderer-class, or as the rest of Starfleet likes to joke, the Scow-class)

[Zanith]

Hrm . . . The looks very interesting, she is not Charleston, but I am sure she will be another fine design to add the the scoreboard.

[mercutiojb]

Oh, I meant you should release the Charleston :D

[Zanith]

I would be interested in seeing what the purpose of the 'wing' going through the warp nacelle is. Also, do you stop the pylon structure on the connection point of the pylon and the nacelle then have a seperate structure for the 'wing' on the other side or does it carry all the way through the warp nacelle structure?

[PepeWan]

Purpose? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......the wingtip is a good place for RCS thrusters, and possibly another phaser bank. And the wings' leading edges have warp sustainers/stabilizers/makebetters. Or something.

Real world? I just thought it looked kinda cool, since (from the front) it sort of reminds me of the F4 Phantom.

And I would guess that's two separate structures.

[Mike Wright]

Dude! Nice to see you're back in action!

Love the new design man. Can't wait to see it finished. :)

Back in the day, before Equinox when they had published the pre-Enterprise-E design and called in Nova class, we always speculated the blades running off the nacelles were a kind of soliton waveguide generator... A new kind of warp travel that didn't hurt subspace.

[Orwell]

Very sleek and kewl. I really like this design. Good start!!

[areakt]

Cool stuff Joe!

Cheers!

Rob

[SeanP]

Looks very cool so far Pepewan.
Yup - love that Charleston.

[PepeWan]

The engine...

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-engine-top1.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-engine-bot1.jpg

[Zanith]

Heh heh. It does make a neat little sihlouette feature. heh heh. Splendid work!

[Trek]

Wow, that engine is bloody amazing!

[seanr]

I LOVE the way you texture your warp engines. Looks like they're straight off the series - perfect!

[PepeWan]

Thanks!!

[jingram_98]

Nice Work! I like the glow on engines :thumbsup:

[Zanith]

Very nice work on the engine texturing. . . . heh, forgot to mention that. It is probably one of the best texturing jobs on the warp field grilles I have seen. ;) :thumbsup:

[PepeWan]

Just an impulse...

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-impulse.jpg

[PepeWan]

Deflector and torpedo launchers:

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bot2.jpg

[Zanith]

Love the sig!! LOL!!!

Awesome work so far. The deflector and engine effects are especially well done!

[PepeWan]

Hangar, hatch, aft torpedoes...

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-back1.jpg

[Zanith]

The door texture looks really odd. The paneling looks quite large, too large.

[Trek]

:yikes:

[PepeWan]

Zanith, you're absolutely right. I either need to squish it some more or just make up a new texture (which would probably be a smart thing to do anyway).

[Zanith]

Just take the image, expand the canvas of the image to twice the height of the original, and past a second copy of the image beneath it, making one longer, seemless texture. Then, make the canvas back to its' original size and I think you will be fine. Heh.

[PepeWan]

Or, I could just squish the Y-height of the texture--since the texture is set to repeat, it'll show more grooves.

[Zanith]

Or that, yes . . .

[PepeWan]

Started adding hull plating...

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-top2.jpg

[Howard Day]

Very nice. I'd love to see a wireframe - those curves be smooth. Besides the fact that I'm tired of looking at Trek ships, this one seems to be a well concieved model. Keep it up!

[PepeWan]

Poof!
Here's a wireframe:

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-wire.jpg

And here's some more hull-plating (along with some annoying segmentation):

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bot3.jpg

[seanr]

I'm liking this one more with each update! Very nice, especially the hullplating.

[Zanith]

Wow Very nicely done! And the curves are so smooth, too!

[rosel_sampson]

the ship looks like it could be a ship given to admerals when they reach their admeral rank. sorry for the spelling

[seanr]

Admiral.

:D

[Zanith]

Admeral is the Chekov dialogue spelling. LOL!

[Sanguinius]

Originally posted by Zanith
Admeral is the Chekov dialogue spelling. LOL!

Spellink :P

[seanr]

I'm thinkink it's gotten wery vierd in here!

[PepeWan]

More frikkin' hull plating...

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-engine-under.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-engine-top2.jpg

[seanr]

SCHAWEET!!!!!!!

[Zanith]

Very nice work! OH BOY!

[Orwell]

What more can I add to the accolades. Looks awesome.:thumbsup:

[Zanith]

I back of Orwell on this one . . .

[AslanC]

That is just too frellin' sweet!

Can't wait to see more :)

[PepeWan]

Some more progress....

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-spine1.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bridge.jpg

[Howard Day]

Beauty. Any chance that you'll share the techniques behind the creation of all these little panels? I think I know, but I'm sure others don't....

[Zanith]

Question -

1. What is the point behind the semi-transparent dome at the top of the beridge. Is it something potentially for the crew to look up and see out of?

Also, I must say - nice job on the door. Heh Heh.

[PepeWan]

That would be a lozenge. For Tin Man. Because he's feeling a little hoarse.

That, or it's a sensor dome.

The panels: I use a background object to cut the pattern into the hull. Then I use Vertibevel to raise and bevel the panel.

[seanr]

That technique has served you well. I think that's the most perfectly subtle style of plating I've ever seen.

[PepeWan]

Cool, Thanks!

[Zanith]

I think it is a style I think we will see others try to mimic in the future. And that is the best compliment . . . Even if sometimes it is plagerism. LOL!

[PepeWan]

Well, I think plenty of other people have done the same kind of thing. I'm not exactly an innovater here.

[Zanith]

Yeah, but yours looks cooler.

[PepeWan]

Sensor panels, phaser strips, phaser cannon, cargo bay, AM hatch, and even a few more panels........

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bot4.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-back2.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-front1.jpg

Next up are windows and escape pods, both of which are probably going to be fairly painful.

[seanr]

I don't like the style you chose for the ends of the phaser emiters even though I know it's canon - it just looks wierd to me. Maybe model sme greebles over the points or something. Also, I think you could use a bit of piping in the sensor arrays. The little blocks are too monotonous. Everything else looks awesome, though. I especially like the way you designed the deflector area - friggin perfect!

[Rustedborg]

I for one love this little ship. I hope you keep posting WIP images here until you're satisfied with it.

I don't have a problem with the phasers, but I am concerned that she doesn't have enough windows. :)

Keep it up!

[Nova Class]

I don't think he's quite to that part yet ;)

[PepeWan]

*poof*
Let There Be Windows...

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-enghull.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-top-windows.jpg

SeanR--I have some ideas for the sensor array; some involve trickery, some involve more piping.

[Rustedborg]

Very nice! :D

I am noticing, however, that the deck plating on the top/dorsal side of the saucer section doesn't look as good as the plating on the bottom.

I think the dorsal plating needs a few more sections/divisions.

Oh, BTW, I absolutely LOVE those nacelles and pylons! Excellent work!

[PepeWan]

Oooo! An update! (And about friggin' time!)



http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bot5.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-front3.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-top3.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-front2.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bot6.jpg

[Blip]

Query: Why the greeny-blue light on top of the bridge dome?

[PepeWan]

Check the bottom of page 2....

[Melvin the Dork]

Holy crap that is cool. I mean it is not only well done (my god its well done) but the ship itself is cool. I mean its very well rounded, cool and quality.
Not to down your work but my beef is the class name. That's just me.

[PepeWan]

Patriot? That's just one part of my lame little in-joke.

[Blip]

Originally posted by PepeWan
Check the bottom of page 2....


Yeah, but GREEN?!? :wtf:

:D

[seanr]

Agreed. The Nova class had a green dome too, I think and they both look FUNKY. :D:D:D:D:D Gop with sky blue or the same shade of cream that was used in TOS and Ent.

[Mr.Brown]

Yeah man i like this ship!
Do you have some schematics of her?

Brown

[Zanith]

You could always make them, Brown. You are much better and faster than I.

[Michael_T]

Wow, it's getting better every update. It looks like a cousin of the Nova Class, if not an offshoot of the Defiant Pathfinder.

[Zanith]

Defiant Pathfinder, they do look alike.

[Melvin the Dork]

I love the shuttle bay and the phasers and the saucer and the torpedo bays and yeah, great ship.
Mel

[seanr]

I hate it.




































'It' being the fact that we haven't seen updates in ten days now.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[PepeWan]

Wow, time flies. I've had all week off and I haven't gotten nearly enough done.
I started screwing around with the bumpmaps, and I think I've got the procedure in place now, so I should be able to go full speed ahead once I get back from the Christmas road trip.

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/bump-top-front.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/bump-top-spec.jpg

[Rustedborg]

Don't stop now ... I'm just starting to get obsessed!!!
:o
Keep on amazing us with images of the Patriot!
:D

[Zanith]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH Nice

[PepeWan]

I'm tryin', I'm tryin'! :D

[seanr]

Try harder! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Zanith]

And harder still! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[AslanC]

Is it too early for me to be in love with this ship?

[Zanith]

Yes! Now BREATH! BREATH Deep. In and out, in and out, in and out . . . :: Looks around and realizes the bad pun ::. I'll stop now.

[PepeWan]

Wham! Yet another speedy update!!

Here's a look at the current status of the image maps. The color map needs to altered a little bit, and I need some sub-panelling for the spec map, but I think it's coming along nicely.

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/texture-top2.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/texture-top-aft.jpg

[AslanC]

She is looking really really good my man. I am loving this ship :)

[seanr]

Speedy? Forgive me if my raucous laughter is disturbing anybody, but I could hardly call that speedy! What I could call it though is fantastic!

[PepeWan]

Well, ya know, speedy is relative.....

And thanks!

[Zanith]

Now this is awesome work. Very impressive. Makes me wanna drool. Can I?

[seanr]

*THUMP*

[PepeWan]

**OW!**

[AslanC]

So is this one dead?

Or finished? Hope hope hope :)

[PepeWan]

Not quite finished....
Here's a couple of months worth of updates:
http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-top4.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bot7.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-front4.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-back3.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/wireframe.jpg

[PepeWan]

And some more:

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/phaser.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/name.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/sidebanner.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/markings.jpg

I'm still working on various little details.

[Rogue Starship]

Originally posted by PepeWan
Not quite finished....
Here's a couple of months worth of updates:
http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-top4.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-bot7.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-front4.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/patriot-back3.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/wireframe.jpg

what is that little circle thing on the back off the hull behind the shuttle bay??
Hold on...*goes and gets drool cup*:D :D

[PepeWan]

Warp core ejection hatch...

[seanr]

That easily ranks among the five best fan-designed ships I've ever seen. FANTASTIC job.

Could you please do me a favor and post this on http://forums.scifi-meshes.com so I can add it to the 'featured threads' header? This fooking rocks!

BTW, you mind if I take a whack at modeling a couple of sets for this at some point? I'm thingking of a bridge loosely styled after the Intrepid class and I absolutely love the idea of a modern horizontal engineering set.

[PepeWan]

Thanks!

I remember seeing your horizontal engineering set right after I started planning out the engineering section for this thing. Perfect Timing.

The only thought I've had for the bridge is the MSD: directly behind the captain/tactical, freestanding, transparent, reconfigurable to tactical display, serves as divider between main bridge and conference area (a la NX-01/Defiant). I'm not saying it's a good idea, I'm just saying it's an idea.

[seanr]

I like that idea, actually, if you can provide me with a graphic to use for that. ;)

[AslanC]

Wow

Holy Frickin' Wow!

I love this bloody ship!

Bravo sir!

Bravo :)

[Trek]

OH... MY... GOD...

:eek: :wtf: :yikes: :love: :drool:

[Boh_iNfecTeD]

Originally posted by PepeWan
Thanks!

I remember seeing your horizontal engineering set right after I started planning out the engineering section for this thing. Perfect Timing.

The only thought I've had for the bridge is the MSD: directly behind the captain/tactical, freestanding, transparent, reconfigurable to tactical display, serves as divider between main bridge and conference area (a la NX-01/Defiant). I'm not saying it's a good idea, I'm just saying it's an idea.

Didn't one of the alternate Enterprise-Ds have something like that?

Anyway, cool looking ship. I like the use of blue on the ship

[cardinalbiggles]

Originally posted by Boh_iNfecTeD
Didn't one of the alternate Enterprise-Ds have something like that?
In the episode "Parallels"... in the alternate reality where Wesley Crusher was the tactical officer. (now why wasn't that the alternate Enterprise that blew up? :D)

It was basically a big glass wall right between Tactical and the aft wall stations with some static Okudagrams of the ship and stuff frosted onto it.

[AslanC]

Man I can't wait to see the MSD for this ship and the bridge sounds great :)

She looks almost done, what's left to do?

Great work man, great work :)

[Orwell]

Beautiful! Been waiting a long time on this one. Can't wait to see her in some renders.

[starforce2]

absolutly amazing.

[PepeWan]

Let's see...I need to throw on some more decals, put some detail into the hangar and cargo bay doors, ribbing on the nav deflector, and probably other things I haven't seen yet. I'll also need to go through and clean up/tweak the surfaces. I guess I'm pretty close to being done, but it'll be a while before I can get back to it--paying projects and moving into the new house take precedence.

[scaramanga]

THere's something wrong with the door next to the shuttlebay

[seanr]

Scara - please be a little more descriptive - I see nothing wrong with the door (for that matter, the only door I see is well above the shuttle bay next to the aft torpedo launchers).

[AslanC]

I love this ship so much :)

(BUMP)

[hutt359]

Funny, I was thinking that Seanr should do some interiors to go behind those large windows.

Great design, one of the best origonal designs that I have seen in a long time. You do really good work.

[AslanC]

What ever became of this design? Did Pepe finish it? She was jsut too damn sweet :)

[General Phoenix]

I agree - I'd love to see what became of it.

On a side note, I'm AMAZED that the links still worked for those images! :)

[PepeWan]

Well, when one has a stagnant webpage, links just don't change that much. Which means I'm a lazy ass and I need to update the frikking web page.

http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/Sumter-OC3.jpg

Schematic (http://home.earthlink.net/~joemcmullen/images/Patriot/Patriot-schematic.jpg)

[Thomas P]

HMOG! The schematic view is awesome! This is an outstanding mesh and it's nice to see it again! The only nit I have is.... Who the f#@* am I kidding? There is not a darn thing wrong with this :D

[scaramanga]

beautiful

[AslanC]

Holy Hannah!

I knew she would be beautiful! And she is!

Take a bow sir... bravo!

:drool:

[Cinnabear]

Schematic view? What schematic view?? I wanna see it!

Okay, I figure I'm courting a tank of napalm by saying this, but... *deep breath* here goes.

There is a school of thought in Trek Ship design that basically seems to say that if you throw a saucer, a sausage and a pair of warp nacelles together in whatever configuration you can call it a starship. Maybe one time in a thousand, that'll actually work - but far too many times, even in canon designs, there's not enough thought given to what's inside as well as what's out. They look more like collections of spare parts than planned vessels.

I guess that's one of the things that really attracts me about this little ship. It *flows*. All of the pieces are there - and they all fit together so well. It's a joy to look at. What's more, it fits into the universe so well, you'd think it *was* a canon design. I'm gonna have to add this design to my shortlist of favourites. It's beautiful. ^_^

All of this is just my opinion, of course, but there it is.

Please, keep up the great work, Pepe!

-jaime

[starforce2]

is that redshirt at the end of the cargo bay trying to kill himself off or what? :D

Nice ship BTW. Looks really mean and slick. Can't wait to see it finished.

[PepeWan]

Hey thanks, Cinnabear (and others). That's exactly what I was trying to do---make all the Starfleet ingredients flow together, instead of just thrown into the mix.

[Warrior]

She'sa beaut alright... nice "sister" ship to the Nova Class ;)

[wjaspers]

Fellow modelers, excuse me for saying, but this IS really the most beautiful mesh I have ever seen. Details/textures/glow really are in a good balance. Perfect!!!

[Cinnabear]

I'm too new to this to say it's the /most/ beautiful that I've ever seen, but it's sure as snot in the top ten. I would cheerfully kill to be able to do work of this caliber, both in terms of te design itself, and in terms of the execution. Maybe if I hang out here long enough and ask enough stupid questions I can at least get to the stage where I don't embarrass myself tho.

Speaking of stupid questions, I found the beautiful five view shematic render that was mentioned. Oddly enough, it was cleverly hidden under that link that said 'schematic'. Silly me. ^^;;

My hat is off to you, Pepe, sir. You succeeded brilliantly. Cheers!

-jaime

[General Phoenix]

That five-view would make an excellent poster on its own!

[Skaravelho]

This is an amazing ship!
Seems to me that the look and feel are much more "canon" than the Norway and Sabre classes, for example.
Nice work!

[sunflower]

Love the details in this piece :D Keep up the good work!

[Starlost]

now that looks awesome. Looking forward to the texturing that you do on that. My textures still don't seem to come out right yet. But your model is great looking so far.

Render On!

Starlost

[TheLoneKnight]

Great stuff!

[seanr]

Well, I'm as impressed today as I was two and a half years ago. I've been thinking about doing some modeling again, maybe now would be a good time for me to start that engineering set. ;)

[trogger]

Great work, I like the detail. :)

[Starship]

STUNNING mesh !

[whecsailor]

Very good attention to the details. A great job

[naddel]

great work, compliment.

[ufyjolk]

Yeah, that's a nice ship :)