romulan z-1 battleship interpretation

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

i'm doing this per request.
it is my interpretation of fasa's romulan z-1 (aka nova or exploding star) battleship.
i integrated design elements of the killerhawk (known from starfleet command and klingon academy)

http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_z1_wip01.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_z1_wip02.jpg

here's a refference pic from shipschematics.net
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/romulan/battleship_z1.jpg

any tips hints and crits are very appreciated :)

[Zanith]

A very nice beginnning.

[michaelfaries]

Ditto! It is a nice start!

Michael

[Scott Gammans]

OMG... you're actually going to attempt that with POV-Ray?! You da man. Keep us posted (and nice start!).

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

thanks all :)

scott, how are you doing? which package do you work with now?

um, yes i'm gonna build that (and two other ships) with povray :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

ok i rounded somethings up a bit and have added some detail to the wings :)

http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_z1_wip03.jpg

comments this far?

[Bogdan]

Good… but here’s a hint… worry about details later…

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

so why?
the basic shape is ready....

[Zanith]

You are in a good phase to do details. Once the basic shaping is done, it is on to the detail work. This is the rule of them of art.

[Bogdan]

I don't know, it looked pretty rough to me. Maybe you are right...

[Zanith]

I would suggest rounding your edges and working on the segmentation of the larger, curved structures like the fantail on the aft. So it has a more smooth and transitional look.

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

of course i'm gonna do that zanith.

color testing the wings :)
also changed their shape. i think thay look better now, don't they?
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_z1_wip04.jpg


i also started on the next one of the ships i'm gonna build, the V30 Cruiser (aka Winged Defender) (http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/romulan/cruiser_v30.jpg)
that was my first idea of the ship
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip02.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip01.jpg

but i didn't like this one, cause it doesn't look nearly as the original one. so i made this one
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip03.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip04.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip05.jpg

any suggestions, praises or other stuff? :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

added some details

i kinda like the way the engines turned out :)
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip06.jpg

[Warrior]

That's one thing nice about POVRay: You don't neccessarily have to follow the normal 3D modeling steps of doing things :)

Since it's all text based, you can go back at any time and change the parameters of anything on it without having to redo everything else.

[Bogdan]

Good… I like details… Although it looks a bit like Klingon BOP.
Or maybe that’s what you want…

[AslanC]

Please do not abandon these bad boys! :)

I have been praying for some other Modern (read post TNG) Romulan ships and your updated of the FASA designs is great! :)

Bravo and I await your next update with baited breath :D

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

thanks for your comments :)
actually these ships should be early 24th century era. one reason i abandoned the first wd design was because of the too futuristic shape of the head :)

Bogdan: if you look at the fasa-design of the winged defender it very much looks like a bop, don't you think? :)

warrior: i use a heightfield map (a bump displacement map :)) for the wing patterns :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

sooo, i've been adding some more details, namly the front torpedo tubes and the lower disruptors. as you can see, i've tried to make a plasma torpedo but i don't like it very much, still havta work on that :)
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip07.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip08.jpg

i'm still thinking of what i should add to the wingtips. hey look kinda empty but i don't want to put nacelles there :/

i also tried to make a photon torpedo effect and it turned out quite good :)
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip09.jpg

please all tel me what you think :)

[Proximo]

you could try putting some more weapons on the wingtips. :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

ofcourse am i going to do that :)
and maybe also change the appearance of the lower disruptors w/ "legs"

[EBOLII]

I have to say I like both the first design and this new design....but UM what is up with the Federation pic?.........no place for them cowards here!

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

err, umm,
the request includes some action shots between te rommies and the feds. after i made the (poorly) plasma torpedo i gave the fed torp a try. about 15-20 minutes later i hade the effect and wanted to show it :)

i also like the first design of the winged defender (if that's what you meant) but it doesn't fit the class. maybe later i will continue the design, who knows. :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

color and nacelle testing

http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip10.jpg

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

so i reworked the impulse engines and added the aft torp bay and tail feathering :)

http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip11.jpg

http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip12.jpg

[Starship]

Looking good !!
Just a suggestion: make the edges of the naceles a little rounded. ;)

I would like to try built her in Max.... let´s see if can get some time to do this. ;)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

rounded you say?
they are rounded, see....

http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_wip13.jpg

:)

[Starship]

Originally posted by Aldiwahn Teerod
rounded you say?
they are rounded, see....

:)

It´s Okay ! :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

the winged defender....






is finished :D

http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_showoff1.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_showoff2.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_v30_showoff3.jpg

as you can see i also implememnted a self-ilumination light rig :)

orthographic views compilation
http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/romulan_v30_orthographic.jpg warning 260kB :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

i made a "reflections" pic with the v-30 :)
http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/romulan_v30_reflections.jpg

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next is the T-10 (http://www.sub-odeon.com/stsstcsmua/romulans/T-10.html)

i came up with this design
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_t10_wip01.jpg

it is basically the main saucer of my v30, the tail less wide, a different head and different wings. i like the overall design very much (though i have another one but that wouldn't fit any of the given ships :)) but i think that this ship would have way too much volume compared to the v30 but it is in the limit of dimensions of the original design. what should i do? :confused:

[Bogdan]

Whatever you decide to do continue making ships?c you are good at it?c

[Thomas P]

Nice job man! Great design and well executed - looks perfect.

[AslanC]

Let me say first off I love your take on the Winged Defender. It is too sweet! :)

Second, the new desing you are doing looks like a good start. Have some fun with it, but certainly trust your instincts :)

Thirdly, please finish the Nova battleship at the start of this thread! Please, please, please, please! :)

Lastly, if you can make these available as Lightwave models that would be amazing :)

Great stuff and I look forward to more of your designs :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

cool, even more fans :D :)

aslan, i certainly -will- finish the nova :)
as for the availability for lightwave, if i find someone who is willing to remodel the whole ships, maybe :) or max and a conversion :)

a lil update :)
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_t10_wip02.jpg

[AslanC]

Looking frellin' sweet dude :)

Is this the T-10 or another ship youa re doing?

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

yeah, this is my t-10 version :)
i hope i can leave it this way, 'cause it ain't got much similarities to the original one (tho the original was absolutely fuggly :)) and i'm not working for my own pleasure :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

another lil update :)
as you can see, i've added some more windows, front/side disruptors and some grills. so not that much.
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_t10_wip03.jpg

[rosel_sampson]

to manny windows. but other than that superb

[BJ_O]

Sweet! I don't think there are too many windows, but maybe have them irregularly spaced, and not mirrored between decks.

You wouldn't happen to have your models publicly available in POV-Ray and/or Moray? I can model fairly well, but texturing and lighting gives me a headache. Your models could give me some good tips!

B.J.

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

i don't think taht i will make my models publically available but if you have questions just ask right away. maybe i can give you a sample file :) or maybe i write a short tut, dunno :)

[AslanC]

Sine you probably won't make them available, will you take render requests?

I would love to see 5 views on these babies :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

Originally posted by Aldiwahn Teerod
the winged defender....


is finished :D
orthographic views compilation
http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/romulan_v30_orthographic.jpg warning 260kB :)

;)

[AslanC]

Whoops!

must have missed that the first time around :)

thanks a million... too Frellin' sweet!

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

hey that's no problem :)

further update :)
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_t10_wip04.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/images/wips/romulan_t10_wip05.jpg

as you can see, i've tried my hands at the warp engines and the underside of the head.

whaddya think so far?

[Zanith]

Well done . . . She is a high quality mesh. I think the windows seem a little large and the ship seems a bit thin for a Romulan vessel. However . . . Here is my compliment . . .

KLINGON BOPS - EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT!!

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

thank you zanith :)
the t-10 is almost finished but i don't think that i'm gonna finish any of the ships right now.
read my last post here: http://www.trekbbs.com/ubb/Forum20/HTML/002717.html

[AslanC]

Dude screw that guy!

Does he owe you cash for these?

If so how much? Maybe I can put some together!

I really love your designs man, and these are some of my fav ships ever.

PM me with the details if need be.

I hope we can work something out.

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

coolies :)
but no, he doesn't owe me something. it's hard to make money with trek if you don't have a license (sp?).

i was thinking about continuing them, not for him but for me or others who enjoy them. maybe if some time passes. i was just really disgusted. that's all.

[Zanith]

Well, as a creative being, you cannot allow yourself to do for others, but do for yourself.

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

you almost got me :)

but at the moment i'm doing further work on my sfm contest image :)

[Zanith]

Well, good, that is good. I am too cowardly for contests.

[AslanC]

So did the Nova ever get finished?

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

umm, not yet.

maybe. sometime.

:)

[AslanC]

Anything I can do to convince you? Bribe you? Get you? :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

i dunno :)

but at the moment i have quite a lot to do, two larger projects running in my spare time. then the ESS Aldrin (i should get back to it and do some stuff on it :) ) and of course my exam project for work.

i can't promise but i will try, k? :)

[AslanC]

Dude your Movie Gen Romulan ships rock AND roll.

I can wait. :)

Can you give me links to the ones that are finished? :)

[Aldiwahn Teerod]

wow thanks! :)

http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/romulan_v30_orthographic.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/romulan_v30_reflections.jpg

the t-10 destroyer is also ready :)
http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/romulan_t10_orthographic.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/romulan_t10_beauty_new.jpg
http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/romulan_t10_beauty_new2.jpg

and i got some more help on post-processing. that's what came out:
http://www.animatedpictures.de/gallery/r_t10_achieved1.jpg

[Thomas P]

Good stuff - really like they way they turned out.

[AslanC]

Seeing if there have been any updates? :)