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August 8th, 2002, 10:07 AM
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Vaught F4U Corsair
Well well before starting to give the Jupiter Class by Zanith a shot i wanted to test my modelling abilities a bit and started to model my favorite WWII aircraft.
how do you like so far?
Cheers Brax
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August 8th, 2002, 12:10 PM
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Hi,
It looks good so far. I have read books on WWII and your picture is very good for a beginning.
Paul
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August 8th, 2002, 12:33 PM
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Wow. You choose one of the awesome birds of the war. The first single-engine prop to break the sound barrier! Those bent wings . . . Goota love 'em!!! Awesome work.
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August 8th, 2002, 04:27 PM
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absolutely gorgeous!!!
I've loved the plane ever since the Baa Baa Black Sheep days! Woohoo!
The tail section looks a little small for some reason...but it has that definite F4U feel.
have you thought about what kind of paintjob you are going to do? Are you going to make the mythical Boyington plane?
heres a site with a good top side pictures on it
http://users.belgacom.net/gc817555/F...Wallpapers.htm
and her is a sound file if you want to do a flyby animation
http://dfwwing.natca.org/f4u/f4u.htm
I love these birds!
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August 8th, 2002, 04:30 PM
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Flight Instructor
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btw- I didn't recognize your cockpit styling. I had to look that one up. Its the very early frame style cockpit windows that the first corsairs had. I had never seen one before. All my experience has been with the bubbletype which was much more common because it gave better visibility. 
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August 8th, 2002, 08:26 PM
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Vought
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August 8th, 2002, 11:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by thomas7g
absolutely gorgeous!!!
I've loved the plane ever since the Baa Baa Black Sheep days! Woohoo!
The tail section looks a little small for some reason...but it has that definite F4U feel. 
have you thought about what kind of paintjob you are going to do? Are you going to make the mythical Boyington plane?
heres a site with a good top side pictures on it
http://users.belgacom.net/gc817555/F...Wallpapers.htm
and her is a sound file if you want to do a flyby animation
http://dfwwing.natca.org/f4u/f4u.htm
I love these birds!
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Thx Thomas, i modelled it after pretty detailed blueprints i had here, so the tail section should be right, must be the perspective but i will look it up again
Dont know about the paint job yet, but Boyington is one hell of a good idea
And Thx for those links they are perfect
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Originally posted by thomas7g
btw- I didn't recognize your cockpit styling. I had to look that one up. Its the very early frame style cockpit windows that the first corsairs had. I had never seen one before. All my experience has been with the bubbletype which was much more common because it gave better visibility.
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Yeah i chose the F4u-1 for me to modell cause i think the old cockpit style and fuselage layout looked way meaner :devil:
maybe i will do the common version as well, will see
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doh, tha
thats what i get for copy&pasteing topic headers 
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August 9th, 2002, 06:31 AM
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hmmm...I actually prefer the newer look myself. But its artistic freedom.
I remember finding a few good pics of the Boyington Plane. Though it had the bubble cockpit. I can look if you are interested. But the Boyington plane is a myth. All the black sheep contrary to the show, didn' have assigned planes. They just hoped into the nearest one available and took off. The myth of a Boyington plane was from a photograph. Apparently the PR guy thought they needed a good background for a shot, so a random plane was painted up including the correct number of kill flags. So there never was a Boyington plane.
btw black sheep is on here tommorrow. do you need more reference?
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August 9th, 2002, 06:33 AM
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about the tail verticle stabilizer. take a close look at your refs. I think there are two different designs. I'm not sure, but I think one is more rounded on the top. meesa not sure. 
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August 9th, 2002, 06:52 AM
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hehe the tail fin was redone some minutes ago, just have to export it from rhino into max and make some nice renders, also the canopy got thos curvy back windows which are here still missing  cheers
and yes i am happy for all the reference you could give me 
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August 9th, 2002, 06:02 PM
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well here we go. redid the aft wings compltly cuase they didnt really want to attach to the fuselage right. according to my blueprints they are accurate (except the pointy tip on the side rudder but that will be taken care of tomorrow
the canopy got its final "aft windows" which were a bitch to get right.

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August 9th, 2002, 06:12 PM
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woohooo! Looking good!
I found the page that had the boyigton pic for his "lulubell"
http://www.acepilots.com/usmc_boyington3.html#top
It also has a pic of your cockpit
Its a cool page. I'm sure you will enjoy reading it. 
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August 9th, 2002, 06:15 PM
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August 9th, 2002, 11:03 PM
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Heh Heh!! MORE MORE!!
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August 10th, 2002, 03:11 AM
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Very aggressive plane... Keep it up!
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August 10th, 2002, 08:07 AM
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Hi,
It is right on the money. Looks GREAT!!!!
Paul
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August 10th, 2002, 01:31 PM
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Beautiful job so far Braxton!
I too am a big fan of the Corsair.
(Corsairs and F14 Tomcats are the absolute coolest fighters ever built.)
I just compared your model to my die cast model of "Lulubelle" (Boyington's plane).
Yours looks pretty much bang on - except for the canopy of course.
Can't wait to see this one done.
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August 10th, 2002, 02:18 PM
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Hi,
As far as the canopy is concerned I believe that it was the teardrop version that was on Boyington's plane. I could be wrong.
Paul
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August 10th, 2002, 07:36 PM
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No, you're right - Boyington's plane had the bubble canopy. 
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August 11th, 2002, 07:46 PM
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I got the ref from this weeks show. Actually it kinda sucked for caps. But here ya go
blacksheep.zip
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September 12th, 2002, 04:51 AM
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well well well after a serious long time of not working on it, i am back at work, thus i have massive time again
this is a combined model-wireframe render. took me ages to get those flaps into the wings!
more renders in max quality later

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September 12th, 2002, 11:46 AM
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here is another update.
- right wing rebuild, this time it is final  disregard the left wing, i have to mirror the right one over there when i have added details.
- tried some basic propellers but the suck... well maybe in the next hours i will get better
- put her up in a more serious lightning rig

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September 12th, 2002, 12:56 PM
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What specific model of the F-4U is this?
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September 12th, 2002, 01:14 PM
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its the F4U-1
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September 12th, 2002, 02:28 PM
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Okay, I gotcha. I was just not sure, the canopy was throwing me off a tad.
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September 12th, 2002, 02:42 PM
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hehe even I didnt know that there were soooo many versions of this plane, ah well, UPDATE TIME!
here are some new images. the propeller is supposed to be final, well i will take a look at it tomorrow again, but dont like to FFD again  The backfin got its rudder and trim and there a two nice shots again with the wings up
cheers
Brax
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September 12th, 2002, 02:45 PM
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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September 12th, 2002, 11:47 PM
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Heh Heh. Watch that interior wing structure. Gotta make some sweet textures there
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September 12th, 2002, 11:52 PM
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bah textures
the stuff is gonna be modelled  like the gear, the cockpit and so on... (at least i hope that i get that stuff done, remember i am still a newbie to modelling)
cheers
Brax
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September 13th, 2002, 01:41 AM
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closeup of the rudder

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